Iraq WMD Report Due Next Week (Sorry, W.)

Phaedrus · Sep 13, 2003

Next week, the first official report on the results, or more precisely lack of results, from the massive CIA-led hunt for Saddam Hussein's alleged weapons of mass destruction will be delivered in Washington.

An excerpt from MSNBC.com:

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Where are Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction? Next week, the administration’s point man for the search, David Kay, returns to Washington with a status report.

The hunt for weapons of mass destruction, so far, has been a bust. Intelligence officials told NBC News there is no smoking gun. They thought they’d discovered a biological weapons lab, but it wasn’t one.

A massive CIA investigation, led by former U.N. weapons inspector Kay, is turning up only what former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein planned — not what he produced.

“He’s not finding the kinds of things the administration expected to find — large quantities of biological and chemical weapons or evidence that they were destroyed prior to the war,” said David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector.
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Full story here.

Phaedrus

Skyweasel · Sep 13, 2003

The stories about the CIA being "ordered" to find WMDs and refusing are legion by this time. All the facts about our misadventure are laid out in the press, either non-mainstream or foreign, and factually backed up. The PNAC, 911 inconsistencies, the culture of lying and abuse of power in the White House, Straussian neo-Nazi philosophy taking hold therein, phoney reporting from the war itself, and on an on.

But I called a radio talk show host, a guy who's not even nominally a right winger, the other day to try to discuss these things and he shouted me off the air as a "CONSPIRACY THEORIST!" Apparently in his world (and this guy fancies himself some sort of sharp cynic who sees through the baloney, lol) if it's not reported by CNN, it's verboten.

So good luck getting the average person who isn't inclined to dig deeper to ever say, "Gee, maybe another 87 bil down this hole isn't worth it."

Phaedrus · Sep 13, 2003

Well, the problem with conspiracy theorists is that they tend to go so completely overboard with the theory ... it's a truism that once you believe in a conspiracy you see it everywhere. Add to that the obvious appeal (for lack of a better word) that the 9/11 attacks holds for the paranoid, and it's a recipe for disaster.

Unfortunately, there are a number of valid, important questions about the 9/11 attacks that need to be addressed and are not, because their legitimacy is usurped by the lack of credibility of the people most commonly asking them. One thing big on my mind for the last two years, is the exact reason why Washington D.C., with over 320 fighter planes within minutes of flight time, was not positively swarming with air cover by the time the plane hit the Pentagon. And, in that same vein, why the flight records for the jets scrambled to the WTC show that they were traveling at somthing like 200 knots -- barely fast enough to keep the plane airborne, in a plane that has a top speed of -- either 1550 or 1875 knots, can't remember what sort of planes they were offhand.

Stuff like that sticks out like a sore thumb to me, and it bothers the hell out of me when nobody seems interested in asking the question.

Phaedrus

Jointpleasure · Sep 14, 2003

There's going to by a lot of egg on a lot of faces when Iraqi - Al Queda connections are revealed. Higher level communications between the Iraqi government, who also gave upwards over 30,000 dollars to a suicide bombers families, and Al queda. WMD will be and likely have been discovered and will be a major concern by American when "IN THE LAST HOURS OF THE ELECION" they are revealed!!

The demis are going to sling soo much mud and the republicans will once again not respond except with the facts. America First!!!

PatPatriot · Sep 14, 2003

JP, Don't think that the last minute drunk driving charge on GW was forgotten..Next election it will be payback..Dems will get their WMD's when the pubbies go nuclear on them.
Jesus JP, hey who wwould of thunk it? ..Al Queda associeted with a multi billion dollar terroist regime??? Everybody but the logic lacking liberals.

yankee1879 · Sep 14, 2003

I'll vote for Gary Coleman before i'll vote for George Dubya Bush...Bush made me into a left wing liberal, I was a republican almost all my life.

radiofreecostarica · Sep 15, 2003

Everyone is left wing compared to the loonies in the White House right now.
These people invoke religion more than osama...

Phaedrus · Sep 15, 2003

Jointpleasure

I have said numerous times that if I am proven wrong I will be the first to admit it. My question to you is, at what point would you concede that there were no terrorist or WMD connections worth uncovering in Iqaq?

I look at the WMD banshees like a bunch of compulsive over bettors. As long as you take the over, you're never truly out of the money until the final bell. But at some point, if you are wrong, you'll no longer have the option of "any day now." What will you do then?

Phaedrus

radiofreecostarica · Sep 15, 2003

WMD will be and likely have been discovered and will be a major concern by American when "IN THE LAST HOURS OF THE ELECION" they are revealed!!

Won't THAT be convenient!

These people are like the apocalyptical fundamentalists who believed the world would end in the year 1000 a.d., then 1500, then 2000 a.d.
"It's coming soon!" They say, as if to encourage repentance. Same story here. A few on the fringes (very powerful fringes at that!) claiming that "we shall all support Bush" when the truth comes out.
So, if there is proof, why has Bush and company been backpedaling so much lately? Have the liars realized their mistake before the deceived?

Phaedrus · Sep 15, 2003

ROTFLMAO

From the Advertiser ...

Indefinite delay on weapons report

LONDON: The US and Britain have decided to delay indefinitely the publication of a full report on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.

The London-based Sunday Times newspaper said inspectors had found no evidence any such arms exist.

Efforts by the Iraq Survey Group, an Anglo-American team of 1400 scientists, military and intelligence experts, to scour Iraq for the past four months to uncover evidence of chemical or biological weapons had so far ended in failure.

The newspaper reported British defence intelligence sources had confirmed that the group's final report had been delayed and may not even be published.

It had been expected a progress report would be published today.

Meanwhile, in Geneva, Switzerland, the five major UN powers failed to agree on a formula for post-war Iraq, as a major disagreement persisted between the Bush administration and France over how fast to turn back power to a new Iraqi government.

The outcome of the meeting between the foreign ministers of Britain, China, France, Russia and the US appeared to be a setback for the White House's efforts to gain greater international backing for the troubled Iraq reconstruction effort.